The one thing the alternatives have in common, if you bring them to a logical conclusion is.Charlie isn't ultimately responsible ! "Yes, it's true, there was a flag draped over the back of the sofa. But you frequently mention that he never said anything about a race war, but that he mentioned 'revolution.' Since Reeve was a CIA agent posing as a hippie, he would have been among the hippies in the van. What's very interesting to me is why was Charlie, a career criminal ON PAROLE, repeatedly released when arrested with drugs, prostituting young girls, possession of stolen property, speeding and leaving the state. 'Nuff said.Melcher moved out of Cielo Drive in December of 1968. [He said] to was impossible that hed move into the Cielo house in January 1969, for one simple reason: he gone to prison then. Mario George Nitrini 111 saidPlease check-out the comments from this blog-post "leave-something-witchy" pertaining to comments by myself, Bobby, & Ms Katie regarding "The Construction Site"I did read that at the time. LAPD were looking for Hatami at the request of Bugliosi because Bugliosi wanted to know if what Rudi Altobelli had told him about Manson turning up at his pad and having been sent there by the people at the main house {and 4 of the 5 Cielo victims were at the house that day} could be corroborated; Bugliosi obviously couldn't get corroboration from Sharon, Jay, Gibbie and Wojiciech and Altobelli had mentioned that he thought Hatami was there that day.Whitson went to Bugliosi's office with Hatami as a friend of Hatami. The Manson Family Blog - Tate LaBianca Murders - TLB - True Crime I've been reading a lot of British footballers autobiographies over the last 18 months and it never ceases to amaze me how people aren't even aware of the dates of certain events in their own lives or the results of matches they are commenting on. Except there was this one dude, Reeve Whitson, who is alleged to have known about the killings at the Tate residence before the police. Was Charles Manson a CIA lab rat? : r/HighStrangeness - Reddit After reading Chaos, I find Wilson to be a very compelling figure in the Manson case. He never worked for the CIA, or any other federal agency. It's a matter of public record, I've seen the court documents but I don't remember where, I think those were the same charges Dean and Tex borrowed Melchers car to drive to court for. She didn't go along with it, but she felt it might hurt them if she took it away. William Garretson claimed that on the afternoon of August 8 while hitchhiking back to Cielo, some guy dressed as a hippie, picked him up. Your own personal encyclopedia or something you had published? Evelle Younger worked with CIA agents Manny Pena and Enrique Hernandez on the RFK assassination case just a year prior to the Tate murders. Someone above kept insisting he "popped up out of nowhere." Then Ashley explores mystery man Reeve Whitson and his connection to the case, before taking a closer look at the operations conducted by the CIA and FBI in the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas during the 1960s. endstream endobj startxref pg201"Reeve was my main person to help me," PJ Tate said. His mother was a dancer and his father was a world-renowned acrobat. Reeve John Whitson 1924 1994 Indiana California Reeve John Whitson, 1924 - 1994. The Manson Family Blog - Tate LaBianca Murders - TLB - True Crime She'd nod and say she knew, but that Gibby and Voityck thought it was very funny. The flag was put on the couch after she and her co-murderers left, where it would be seen by Winifred in the morning. Whitson was a former CIA agent who had worked extensively in Latin America including Ecuador. The Manson Family Blog - Tate LaBianca Murders - TLB - True Crime I've been researching the activities of an old friend's father back in the Laurel Canyon days. And did he not usually have permission for the few occasions he travelled out of state ? They do a lot of illegal, ugly things against man's law, and against God's law. A search of newspapers.com shows that he grew up in Kendallville, Indiana, got married to Mary Worch of Santa Monica on Jan. 7, 1952, and that his father worked in the circus. ), Whitsons wife (not exactly an objective witness), Linda Ruby a cousin of Whitsons (again, not objective), 2 detectives working on the TLB case who are desperate to find ANY motive in a case that appears to have none EXCEPT drugs and robbery, and a British film director claiming Whitson had "very good connections with LASO" along with thousands of other people in LA, If the FBI or CIA allowed the murders of 5 adults and one full term unborn baby to happen while supposedly surveilling the scene there would be an uprising in this country the likes of which haven't been seen since the Civil War. He (O'Neill) said nothing to that effect. Reeve Whitsons father knew his son was going to the Cielo house the night of August 8. Who is he again ? I hate him too. That just sounds funny. He didn't "bring" Hatami. Reeve Whitson, Tom O'Neill's Masterpiece CHAOS, and Difficult - YouTube Did you have a police officer contact him, or did you contact him by phone?MR MUSICH: I object to the question as immaterial, your Honor, how he got thereQ:Just foundatiorial, your HonorA: I learned about the existence of Mr. Hatami from Rudy Altobelli, and at that time I contacted the LAPD and I told them to find Hatami and bring him to my office. These papers are in the Eisenhower Presidential Library in Abeliene, Kansas. And for my legal reasons and MORE, I comment & blog a certain wayThat's kind of neither here nor there. 2.2K 327 EntertainmentNo1123 5 days ago Anyone that engages with me should by now know that at the very least, notwithstanding my style and sense of humour {or lack thereof !} He was involved in the two Kennedy assassinations as well as the MLK assassination, the CIA in Operation Bluebird, biker gangs and worked at Lookout Mountain Air Force Station at the top of Laurel Canyon. Or Sonny Reevwhit.Or Reevie Sonwhit. I can't imagine Paul Tate lauding someone who could have prevented his daughter's death. That sounds like a made up name. I've never heard of this Reeve guy in my life, and I've been studying this case for years. Regarding Whitson's interest in sportscars, author Tom O'Neill wrote in his book Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA and the Secret History of the Sixties: CHAOS Question : r/TrueAnon - Reddit "Not every detail in "Helter Skelter" is correct. He boasted about his activities in South America, for instance his involvement in the capture of Che Guevara . C'mon Grim, you know better.And for my legal reasons and MORE, I comment & blog a certain way.So, with that said, I hope you & your family are doing well Grim.And yes, you have defended me in the past(Thank you).Mario George Nitrini 111----The OJ Simpson Case. "*Winifred Chapman, presumably.Greg King's book quoting BUGLIOSI : Mrs CHAPMAN told police investigators that it had simply been placed on the back of the couch as a decorative touch a few weeks earlier .Sharon Tate Remembered by Sheila WellsThe red, white and blue nursery colors reminded me of reading about the murder scene and how there was an American flag draped over Sharon's sofa. He absolutely did not. grimtravellerThis is a bit off topic. View the profiles of people named Reeve Whitson on Facebook. Hatami directed him to the caretaker's guest house on the other side of the pool, where Rudy Altobelli lived. I have these numbers from ONeills book in reference to Hatami and Whitson: 22239, 14483, 14508, 14542, 14554There's nothing connected with him on page 22239 ~ that's Squeaky's testimony. This is the third time. It does seem that his place in the scheme of things is being ramped up in the absence of anything new and groundbreaking. My friend's father was an ACE pilot who could supply anything covert. It was a huge deal here in the Northwest. I wouldn't base any findings on what she says. He didn't even see him during the trial.Reeve Whitson could of course be the spook extraordinaire.but once again, what ends up happening is that theories abound because there are many people that just refuse to accept the verdict as it came down and go looking to find reasons why it must have happened. Reeve Whitson passed away at age 63 years old on October 25, 1994. Others seperately said Whitson was CIA. It should have been MPK 308. Note the characters involved.FITZGERALD:Are you in charge of the prosecution of the case of People vs. Manson, et al? Reeve Whitson was born March 25, 1931. Join Facebook to connect with Reeve Whitson and others you may know. Well Grim, your fan club is calling. Shahrokh Hatami of course hahahahahahaha. I'm currently reading it and it is fantastic, notwithstanding the spelling and punctuation errors and wrong dates here and there. I came to your officeQ:You will have to talk up a little more loudlyA Yes. This is from the Twilight Zone! For some it was possibly a fascinating exchange because as is your wont, you tend to be a great promoter of intrigue and mystery and you have a way of seeming like you have some dynamite for demonstration..but it never explodes. Whitson was apparently an enigmatic figure, but counted among his friends a large segment of Hollywood and business. He was connected with Nazis, top US Gov. William I think Doris saw that flag on the couch a couple of days before the murders. However, to be fair to ONeill, when I said that Hatami mentioned Whitson four times, I was being a bit sloppy in my choice of words. More on Reeve Whitson - Zodiac Killer Identified Private Investigator Reeve Whitson CIA? Thabk you, Bunkhouse, Does anyone have any additional info on Reeve Whitson? I find that hard to believe.In Krenwinkel's first parole hearing, she pretty much said she didn't remember anything about that night except chasing down Gibby. Who is this O'Neill guy? Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties; Prologue (Video) Epilogue; Chapter 12 - Where Does It All Go? Ruth Wilson Left The Affair Because She Didn't Feel Safe - Screen Rant What mystery within a mystery gnaws at you the most? One correction grimtraveller.When took Charles Mansonbt that "construction site," and later went to The Fireside Inn to hear him play & sing, I had just turned 18 years old, not 19 years old.Oh brother, these senior moments are becoming more & more frequent.GESHLOL Mario George Nitrini 111------The OJ Simpson Case. It was the nation's top-secret film studio that produced more films (moon landing backup films) in one year than all the film studios in the L.A. area combined. They could have played a part ranging from major to minor.We know that Reeve Whitson was an investigator of some sort. I can't say if that means anything with regard to conspiracy or governmental involvement, but parole violations require neither crime nor conviction. Oddly, he frequently took his daughter with him on these flights. The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Reeve Whitson That said, in some cases it's understandable.In the case of Bugliosi's book, the errors regarding the Hearst bike delivery times and the Parent/Sharon car registrations aren't ones that I regard as serious. starviego saidI am now thinking those items were planted at the scene to subtly demonize the victims and to enable police to go off on their sham 'drug burn' diversion.I agree. It's much more factual than Helter Skelter. Is Moorehouse still alive? Retweets. I remember reading that Moorehouse molested his daughtersIf there's one thing I've come to realize in regard to TLB and other matters of such complexity that have attracted much thought, controversy, speculation and revision, it's that the phrase "I read somewhere" or "I remember reading/seeing somewhere" is one that is fraught with pitfalls because it's almost used as a barometer of the truth of the matter whereas in actuality, it could mean anything, something or nothing at all. Whitson had worked in Central America during the late 50s, close to the Folger Company's offices (Ecuador?). But it was in those early days of '69 that it began to assume a definite shape and that the rest of the Family began to understand and assimilate it {well, as much as they did understand and assimilate it}. Thank you, Bunkhouse. The morning after the murders, his father realized his son had not been home. This is a bit off topic. Chaos: Charles Manson, the CIA, and the Secret History of the Sixties; Prologue (Video) Epilogue; Chapter 12 - Where Does It All Go? IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT YOURE A POSER. However, I am not disputing O'Neill's sources. One of the girls actually tried his door knob. And life just gets more better and more clearer! I would love it if Stephen Kay wrote a memoir, not just for the Manson stuff but because he nailed that scumbag Lawrence Bittaker. But your opinion isn't the one that counted circa '67~'69. "Put yourself in my position. Also Mon I think Whitson might be the truest character in O'Neill's book, but I think people are going to throw the baby out with the water on this one. He could not have been there prior to the dinner engagement at the El Coyote, otherwise he would joined Sharon, Jay, Wojtek and Abigail.The time of departure to the restaurant is tied to the delivery of Abigails bicycle by Dennis Hurst. You give a certain impression that actually is not so. What kind of honest, upstanding man does that with his daughter?If you want to point fingers at child molesters, go ahead, but I think a special finger should be pointed at a father who farms his own daughter out to child molesters!! There is a lot more here that doesn't add up. bill on Twitter: "Let's talk about Reeve Whitson." / Twitter They had dinner at the restaurant and left about 9:45. Chaos reads like a bad spy novel CIA spooks MK Ultra Manchurian candidates really just ridiculousEven the interesting parts such as why Manson's parole was never revoked after all of his arrests for some fairly serious crimes went nowhere we've all heard this before I was hoping maybe the reasons would finally be expained but never where don't waste your money there's plenty of really good book's on the subject I believe my collection on the subject is right around 30 books, The craziest thing is 30 books is just the tip of the iceberg, I'd bet if one of the real experts in the TLB community sat down for a few hours and listed them there would be at least 150, if you added magazine articles, movies, TV specials, musical recordings, podcasts, you'd be at 1000 or more. April or March, I don't remember the exact month Q:And was that the first time that you had spoken with this witness?A:YesQDid you direct that he be present at your office at a particular time?A:YesQ And how did you do so? You weren't in the Family. The trial transcript is on Cielodrive.com. I wonder if some of you are so dismissive because your default position is to be skeptical, so you're not actually letting the information in. The purpose behind the plot was to incite terror among white people and put the blame on black radicals. It involved every dirty trick in the book. The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Reeve Whitson In the Sanders book that I have it says Hearst delivered the bike between 6.30 and 7.30 which, according to Hearst is accurate as he testified arriving "about 7.00pm" and left "about 7.20. According to author Tom O'Neill, Hatami first shared his Charlie encounter story with possible CIA agent Reeve Whitson. officials, KKK, Satanists, Dixie Mafia, Project Bluebird, and MKULTRA, Lookout Mt. You should have a read of it if you haven't already, with particular attention given to the testimiony of Terry Melcher and Dean Mooorehouse.That Moorehouse had been to Cielo while Melcher lived there in the summer of '68 is no secret. Also God bless Steven Kay because I think he's a true advocate for victims he does tend to exaggerate things, Susan killed Sharon, Manson read Nietzsche all the time, dogs ate before people, etc, etc and on the claims of Melcher being at Barker after the murders look at the source, Danny DeCarlo, one of the biggest lying scumbag pieces of shit to ever come down the pike, This whole ONeill book thing is a collection of tin hat conspiracy bullshit timed PERFECTLY to be released within months of the 50th anniversary and the release of the Tarantino, the only "facts" in it are what has already been public knowledge for decades. But I've got my eye on you. 3) The intersection of military intelligence, Hollywood and the mob runs directly into the Linkletter family, who were involved in a myriad of legitimate and no so much legit businesses. Texas Shooting: 40 Cops Stood Around Outside the School for 40 Minutes It came with the house. I am in Chapter 6, when Reeve Whitson is just being introduced as the cryptic CIA agent "He used his thumbnail to tear the top-right-hand corner of every piece of paper he handled, to mark it. What mystery within a mystery gnaws at you the most? : r - Reddit Quite a bit of "what I've read" has actually come from people who weren't stating die-hard fact, but in the mists of time I'd remember what I read but not the circumstance or context. My conclusion, given the research I've done so far, is MY FRIEND"S FATHER KNEW WHITSON (if Whitson existed) and used Whitson's information to disguise himself or Whitson used my friend's father's info to add to his own. ", Another one of Ed Sanders mysterious names with stories too interesting to be true, animal sacrifices, human sacrifices, porn movies filmed of the family at some Malibu mansion, Susan drinking blood and pooping on stairwells, Charlie biting through umbilical cord, blah, blah, blah, The Family is more a work of fiction than Lord of the Rings. The Zodiac Killer and the CIA An agent for the Central Intelligence Agency moved into a dairy and cotton farming community of 4500 people situated within the San Joaquin Valley of California. C'mon Grim, you know betterThe big reveal was that Danny DeCarlo "ratted out" the Manson crew which was against the biker code.But that has been public knowledge since September 1970.And no, I don't know better. Sheilah nodded. Charles Manson Case - Who Was Reeve Whitson? - YouTube According to Bugliosi, p. 85, the time was between 7:30 and 8:00. saidI think it's fair to say that a career criminal with high recidivism like Manson would have had stringent parole conditionsNot if you take into account 2 things > a] the things Manson had actually gone to jail for in the 50s and b] It was the authorities that paroled him. That's one of the reasons that there is so much wrong info out there on this subject and why so many ridiculous theories abound and so much importance is placed on anything that appears to be new and vital.So, with all that in mind, just where would information pertaining to Dean Moorehouse molesting his daughters have come from ?
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